Well, it was all meant to be over by breakfast time, then the meetings were pushed back to an English brunch, then an English lunch and finally, an English tea. But still no white smoke or sign of an agreement between David Cameron and the rest of the European leaders. With a birthday weekend looming, we moved swiftly to record a podcast dissecting the European debate, discussing TTIP and Apple and then thinking about the Greens. With the Greens, it is a touch of the Oscar Wilde's ( "one thing worse than being talked about etc. ) .